"Today got beaten by The Morning Show. That should not happen," Rob told TV Blackbox listeners, referencing the mid-morning program which follows Today's rival, Sunrise.
Along with Georgie Gardner, the breakfast programs is lead by Deborah Knight, plus newcomers Tom Steinfort and Brooke Boney.
"How many more bad headlines can they take with this show? It is not working. They need to go back to the drawing board,' Rob advised.
"They need to scrap everything that they're doing now and try again because they got it wrong."
TV Blackbox commentator Steve Molk then crunched the numbers.
"Since Today's big relaunch in January, the trend line is still going down. It's still moving away from Sunrise whose trend line is going up. On average Sunrise is 60K, 70K, 80K to a 100K difference of a morning."
McKnight added, "Sunrise being number one is no longer the story, it's a given now."
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